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Moe samour said:
yeah it tastes so sweet but can harm your body as its fattening

Dude... take it easy


don't worry about it yolanda, your posts were sweeter than honey
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Shuuuu? what do you mean take it easy?
ayri juicy yo!
lol pwnedd
 
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Yo1anda said:
Do you refute the Hadiths of Bukhari?
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Yes i do. Historically, the Qur'an is the word of Allah and the message of Muhammad. Anything else is not necessarily authentic Islam.

A Muslim, by definition follows the Qur'an and the words of Allah, not Bukhari.
 
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Yo1anda said:
Sura 9:74

They swear by Allah that they said nothing (evil), but indeed they uttered blasphemy, and they did it after accepting Islam; and they meditated a plot which they were unable to carry out: this revenge of theirs was (their) only return for the bounty with which Allah and His Messenger had enriched them! If they repent, it will be best for them; but if they turn back (to their evil ways), Allah will punish them with a grievous penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: They shall have none on earth to protect or help them.
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It doesn't take a genius to figure out that this by no means tells Muslims to be violent. On the contrary it says that whatever Muslims do, it's irrelevant, that persons sin, is their sin, and they'll be punished in hell.
 
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mirakon said:
Yes i do. Historically, the Qur'an is the word of Allah and the message of Muhammad. Anything else is not necessarily authentic Islam.

A Muslim, by definition follows the Qur'an and the words of Allah, not Bukhari.
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Muslims who only follow the Qur'an, and not the Hadith, are very few and far between.

I would not hate Islam if the Qur'an alone was followed.
 
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Yo1anda said:
Muslims who only follow the Qur'an, and not the Hadith, are very few and far between.

I would not hate Islam if the Qur'an alone was followed.
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Yes, and that's the inante problem. Not the religion itself, but how it is misconstrued by it's own followers.

Furthermore, as someone from a Muslim family, I can assure you that the vast majority of Muslims are just as moderate and ignore much of the hadith. The problem is the minorty who follow each adnd very hadith are far more vocal and brought to attention far more often in the media.
 
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mirakon said:
Yes, and that's the inante problem. Not the religion itself, but how it is misconstrued by it's own followers.

Furthermore, as someone from a Muslim family, I can assure you that the vast majority of Muslims are just as moderate and ignore much of the hadith. The problem is the minorty who follow each adnd very hadith are far more vocal and brought to attention far more often in the media.
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Yeah, i dont follow the hadith in any shape of form, its not the word of 'god', but the word of people who wrote it :S. The whole point in islam, which prides it self in being different than other religions is that it believes that it is the only religion where its books which are followed are the 'unchanged' word of god. The quran is the only thing to be followed, nothing else, because the hadith was written by humans, as evident in the dramatic loss of power in its use of language.
 
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mirakon said:
Yes, and that's the inante problem. Not the religion itself, but how it is misconstrued by it's own followers.

Furthermore, as someone from a Muslim family, I can assure you that the vast majority of Muslims are just as moderate and ignore much of the hadith. The problem is the minorty who follow each adnd very hadith are far more vocal and brought to attention far more often in the media.
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It's not a minority.

For example.. hijab. The hijab is VERY common for Muslim women. Yet the Qur'an stipules the dress code be:

1. Cover your chest
2. Lengthen your garments
3. Preserve your modesty

which IMO are very, very reasonable rules, yet we have a majority which preaches the hijab as compulsory, and a minority within that which preach that NIQAB is compulsory.
 
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