-
Best of luck to the class of 2024 for their HSC exams. You got this! Let us know your thoughts on the HSC exams here -
YOU can help the next generation of students in the community! Share your trial papers and notes on our Notes & Resources page
National Studies HISTORIOGRAPHY (3 Viewers)
- Thread starter braindrainedAsh
- Start date
hopeles5ly
Take Me Higher.
Re: makin up historians??
I guess, as long as you can back up your quotes with a demonstration of extensive knowledge through a coherent argument, then you should be fine
It's only the HSC - i got away with a lot of other stuff, which i would get owned for in uni-pari- said:^
kudos to you - but i'd rather not take the risk
I guess, as long as you can back up your quotes with a demonstration of extensive knowledge through a coherent argument, then you should be fine
mandas2choc
New Member
- Joined
- May 10, 2006
- Messages
- 9
- Gender
- Female
- HSC
- 2007
Re: makin up historians??
Also, dw abt exact quotes. As long as u can pharaphise and refer to the essay question when explaining the revealance of your chosen historians point of view, your on the right track. TRRUST ME. ive had 4 markers tell me this. AND a judge - he does the scaling=) god ive got niccee connections
ARE YOU CRAZY?!!! or kinda stupd? my friend wrote 3 pg essays for every essay and recieved a HIGH uai and HIGH hsc mark. both in the 90's.cem said:
Also, dw abt exact quotes. As long as u can pharaphise and refer to the essay question when explaining the revealance of your chosen historians point of view, your on the right track. TRRUST ME. ive had 4 markers tell me this. AND a judge - he does the scaling=) god ive got niccee connections
Re: makin up historians??
I don't know if i can believe 3 pages. You look at the standard's packages, and anything under 5 pages for a 25 mark question doesn't score above a band 4. The judge's don't determine the scaling, they give their opinion on the alinging to the BOS. UAC takes care of the scaling.
mandas2choc said:ARE YOU CRAZY?!!! or kinda stupd? my friend wrote 3 pg essays for every essay and recieved a HIGH uai and HIGH hsc mark. both in the 90's.
Also, dw abt exact quotes. As long as u can pharaphise and refer to the essay question when explaining the revealance of your chosen historians point of view, your on the right track. TRRUST ME. ive had 4 markers tell me this. AND a judge - he does the scaling=) god ive got niccee connections
I don't know if i can believe 3 pages. You look at the standard's packages, and anything under 5 pages for a 25 mark question doesn't score above a band 4. The judge's don't determine the scaling, they give their opinion on the alinging to the BOS. UAC takes care of the scaling.
hopeles5ly
Take Me Higher.
Re: makin up historians??
So, we should start trusting people whom are grammatically challenged?
mandas2choc said:ARE YOU CRAZY?!!! or kinda stupd? my friend wrote 3 pg essays for every essay and recieved a HIGH uai and HIGH hsc mark. both in the 90's.
Also, dw abt exact quotes. As long as u can pharaphise and refer to the essay question when explaining the revealance of your chosen historians point of view, your on the right track. TRRUST ME. ive had 4 markers tell me this. AND a judge - he does the scaling=) god ive got niccee connections
So, we should start trusting people whom are grammatically challenged?
Silver Persian
Banned
Re: makin up historians??
What I did was use 'real' historians. but then make up what they actually say. As long is the claim isn't too out there, the marker will assume you know what your'e talking about.
What I did was use 'real' historians. but then make up what they actually say. As long is the claim isn't too out there, the marker will assume you know what your'e talking about.
X
xeuyrawp
Guest
Re: makin up historians??
Like referring to a source without analysing it, you're saying that a historian is reliable. If the marker hasn't heard of the author, they pretty much see the historian as unreliable and will generally ignore your point.
You're expected to collect ideas and quotations from well-known historians.
Also, if you mess up in the exam and have the historian saying something which the marker knows they didn't, you'll get axed. Reminds me of Gae Callender at the ancient history marking center: 'I didn't say that!'.
Like referring to a source without analysing it, you're saying that a historian is reliable. If the marker hasn't heard of the author, they pretty much see the historian as unreliable and will generally ignore your point.
You're expected to collect ideas and quotations from well-known historians.
Wouldn't it be easier just to remember the views of the historians, and then do a paraphrase?Silver Persian said:
Also, if you mess up in the exam and have the historian saying something which the marker knows they didn't, you'll get axed. Reminds me of Gae Callender at the ancient history marking center: 'I didn't say that!'.
Re: makin up historians??
u massive homo.. ur still on this site bagging people out in modern history.. hahah i came on to check my old teachers comments and saw that ur life is still devoted to it..
u raging homo go out and get a life
peace up SCG ext history!!
u massive homo.. ur still on this site bagging people out in modern history.. hahah i came on to check my old teachers comments and saw that ur life is still devoted to it..
u raging homo go out and get a life
peace up SCG ext history!!
el gwapo
Member
Re: Germany Historiography- not asking, giving.
Good quotes. Thanks a lot
Good quotes. Thanks a lot
Jessica 101
New Member
- Joined
- Jan 12, 2008
- Messages
- 2
- Gender
- Female
- HSC
- 2008
C. L. Holtfrerich in "The German Infaltration", suggests that the inflation suffered by Germany since the beginning of WW1 (1914) can be percieved as a legitimant and strategic national policy to help overcome national economic crisis.
As Kolb points out, this is no longer the case in 1923 when it turns into hyperinflation due to Frances invasion of the Rhur.
However, for the first three syllabus dot points on the Weimar Republic, i thought i was interesting that inflation was in many ways to the benifit of Germany.
SORRY i know its not a quote, but thats the genrel gist of what he said.
As Kolb points out, this is no longer the case in 1923 when it turns into hyperinflation due to Frances invasion of the Rhur.
However, for the first three syllabus dot points on the Weimar Republic, i thought i was interesting that inflation was in many ways to the benifit of Germany.
SORRY i know its not a quote, but thats the genrel gist of what he said.
-coffee-addict-
New Member
Re: Germany Historiography- not asking, giving.
THANK YOU!! this list is brilliant and so very very helpful.. thank u
THANK YOU!! this list is brilliant and so very very helpful.. thank u
sophie-kate
New Member
- Joined
- Jul 14, 2008
- Messages
- 4
- Gender
- Female
- HSC
- 2008
Re: makin up historians??
dont do it.
these teachers have been marking for a long time most of them teach the subject as well they know the generic hitorians and can pick a phony not to metion they could simply ask the others at their marking table wether they have herd of a bob brown who has views on pro zionism.
big hint: when using historians paraphrase rather than quote it will show u understand the view rather than u remeber it
dont do it.
these teachers have been marking for a long time most of them teach the subject as well they know the generic hitorians and can pick a phony not to metion they could simply ask the others at their marking table wether they have herd of a bob brown who has views on pro zionism.
big hint: when using historians paraphrase rather than quote it will show u understand the view rather than u remeber it
Re: makin up historians??
do not make up historians, rather just back up an idea with a historian who supports it, for example use the name of the author from your text book in my case in studying Germany the author of the book is Kj Mason so any idea i state i will just in brackets put KJ Mason next to it, however have about 2 or 3 historians for each area of study to show you have an undersanding and just havent accepted one viewpoint.
do not make up historians, rather just back up an idea with a historian who supports it, for example use the name of the author from your text book in my case in studying Germany the author of the book is Kj Mason so any idea i state i will just in brackets put KJ Mason next to it, however have about 2 or 3 historians for each area of study to show you have an undersanding and just havent accepted one viewpoint.
fallenstar
liberate, educate.
Re: makin up historians??
and making up historians is just stupid and shows you can't be bothered to learn it yourself.
it's more fulfilling when you do and you go into an exam with greater confidence.
Textbook authors are NOT historians. They are merely collaborating information into a form suitable for a syllabus. We are repeatedly told in Extension History that textbook writers don't count. In Ext exams, many people quote Peter Heath, the author of a bunch of HSC notes on JFK for the case study, and markers immediately know they don't understand the term 'historian'.aidin101 said:
and making up historians is just stupid and shows you can't be bothered to learn it yourself.
it's more fulfilling when you do and you go into an exam with greater confidence.