Raped by her uncle, but can she have an abortion? (1 Viewer)

[^CoSMic DoRiS^^]

people also keep asking me the same questions read my posts

Your posts make me wish post-natal abortions were legal so I could give your mother a shotgun and tell her to get on with it.

How dare you talk about abortion like it's more heinous than what has already happened to this girl. You said it yourself, you have no idea what she is going through. And I guarantee if this was you you'd be rethinking your ideals pretty damn hard.

Have some compassion.

 

[scaredytiger]

i never said i would force her to go through with it i disagree with it but it is her decision to make

tbh, i also disagree with abortion as a general rule - i hope i am never put in a position where i should have to test my personal beliefs, but this is truly an exceptional case.

 

[Hollieee]

Because we're trying to get it though you're head that you're being an idiot.
Trying to force you to think about what the hell you're saying.
And its exactly what you said. You said the baby shouldn't be killed, and in my books that more or less constitutes that she should be made to go through with it.
And on top of that, 11 year olds aren't exactly known for their emotional maturity or ability to make life altering decisions concerning an incestuous rape child.

 

[Hollieee]

P.S, I also don't think I could go through with an abortion myself, but if it was in a case such as this, I would most certainly consider it at the very least. And more than likely I would go through with it.

 

[^CoSMic DoRiS^^]

My main point is that in a case like this, where you have a child falling pregnant as the result of incestuous rape, the rights and wellbeing of the girl are paramount. You can go on about the innocent little baby all you like, but in my opinion, the innocent little girl whose baby it is deserves the right to abort it. She deserves the right to preserve her body until it is ready to give birth. Think about the physicality of an eleven year old. Got it? Now think of that body giving birth. There's no way to justify that sort of trauma.

God'll get over it. There's plenty more where that one came from. And they won't be the products of incest and rape and child abuse and they won't have 15 fingers and 2 heads either....

 

[Hollieee]

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[ChockoRepublic]

CosmicDoris, I love you =)

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[black_kat_meow]

Stop saying it's a baby, it's not. It's a foetus. Not the same.

 

[boris]

i do not have an idea what she is going thorugh but it is a BABY. I think you will find an 11 year old would not carry full term, let alone go through a normal birth process

wHAT THE FUCK

I DON'T GET THIS. IF YOURE ADMITTING THE BABY WILL PROBABLY DIE DURING THE PREGNANCY, HOW CAN YOU HONESTLY SUPPORT MAKING AN 11 YEAR OLD GO THROUGH WITH A PREGNANCY THAT WILL QUITE POSSIBLY END IN MISCARRIAGE OR COMPLICATIONS

YOU'RE SUCH A FUCKING IDIOT I CANT BELIEVE HOW DUMB YOU ARE, YOU INFURIATE ME

 

[boris]

try to take this into consideration:

If you were a mother who had a child from rape and it was born, would you kill it cos of the painful memories. It is a tiny innocent baby, it does not deserve to die nor did the mother deserve to go through this, but it has happened, a child should not have to die either.

Would you kill a baby? that is what abortion is.

ABORTION IS NOT KILLING BABIES. WHICH PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT COMPREHEND

ABORTION DOES NOT EQUATE TO MURDERING BABIES.

 

[ChockoRepublic]

ABORTION IS NOT KILLING BABIES. WHICH PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT COMPREHEND

ABORTION DOES NOT EQUATE TO MURDERING BABIES.

WE CAN ALL TYPE IN LARGE LETTERS TOO. Some may agree with you, some may not. You don't win an argument by shouting, or in your case, typing large.

 

[boris]

I support abortion, but unlike other issues religious fucktards rant about, I can understand the position of those who don't. It's a pretty fine line and I don't think there is any definitive answer to the point at which it is no longer acceptable to terminate a pregnancy.

I support an 11 year olds right not to have a rape baby!

 

[boris]

WE CAN ALL TYPE IN LARGE LETTERS TOO. Some may agree with you, some may not. You don't win an argument by shouting, or in your case, typing large.

NOT TRYING TO WIN AN ARGUMENT KNOB JOCKEY, BUT IT'S EVIDENT THAT REASON AND POLITENESS DO NOT GET THROUGH TO THESE IDIOTS.

NOR DOES LOGIC.

I CAN ONLY HOPE EMYTAYLOR NEVER GETS RAPED BY HER UNCLE

Or do I.

 

[boris]

Oh for sure. But unlike you I can understand those who don't. Generally, I too want to grab these fundy tards and beat some sense into them. But with abortion I see the logic in their arguments and how they feel so strongly about it.

Btw, give the caps a rest.

Dude, I can completely see (removing the fundies out of it) a logical persons response to being anti abortion.

What I can't take is the persistant fucking fundy hacks who seem unable to rationalise the idea that an 11 year old going through with a pregnancy to their uncle is NOT better than murdering a child. And their whole argument is based on 'oh but it's murder. but it's a life, but the poor little baby didn't do anything wrong'

I can't fucking stand it. Any other anti abortion argument I can fathom, but I can't handle the rest.

And fuck off anyway you cunt, you have no idea what I understand about the other argument. Thus far there hasn't been any other reasonable argument put forward re: anti abortion except for the fucking LOLZ BUT GOD SAYZ NO

 

[black_kat_meow]

WE CAN ALL TYPE IN LARGE LETTERS TOO. Some may agree with you, some may not. You don't win an argument by shouting, or in your case, typing large.

Technically she's right though. You can say it equates to killing a FOETUS, but not a BABY.

 

[^CoSMic DoRiS^^]

Oh for sure. But unlike you I can understand those who don't. Generally, I too want to grab these fundy tards and beat some sense into them. But with abortion I see the logic in their arguments and how they feel so strongly about it.

Btw, give the caps a rest.

I understand their position very clearly. However in a case like this I consider it to be largely irrelevant given the circumstances.

 

[boris]

I understand their position very clearly. However in a case like this I consider it to be largely irrelevant given the circumstances.

It's like fuck.
We're trying to get them to comprehend the situation. There will be times in their lives when saying 'lol i cant do that coz god sayz no' will not be an applicable response.
There will be times when horrible things conflict with their ideals, when they might find (heaven forbid) that the Bible doesn't have all the answers.

It just infuriates me that time and time again, the best answer they can come up with is 'BUT IT'S MURDER', brushing it off as though an 11 year old having an incestuous pregnancy is inconsequential

 

[black_kat_meow]

It's like fuck.
We're trying to get them to comprehend the situation. There will be times in their lives when saying 'lol i cant do that coz god sayz no' will not be an applicable response.
There will be times when horrible things conflict with their ideals, when they might find (heaven forbid) that the Bible doesn't have all the answers.

It just infuriates me that time and time again, the best answer they can come up with is 'BUT IT'S MURDER', brushing it off as though an 11 year old having an incestuous pregnancy is inconsequential

It's one of the reasons I'm not a proper Christian anymore. It's too black and white, and life comes in shades of grey.

 

[Graney]

i never said i would force her to go through with it i disagree with it but it is her decision to make

So you think it's tragic, immoral even, but you support womens right to choice?

You agree abortion should be legal, if only for cases of rape/incest?

If you believe abortion is murder, why shouldn't she be forced to go through with it?

Would you kill a baby? that is what abortion is.

You support legalised murder?

Your morality is riddled with contradiction. You must choose between believing she should be forced to go through with it, or believe it's not really killing a person. Unless your an advocate for legal murder. Which is fine really.

 

[boris]

Ok no that I agree, but if you believe that a fetus is a human life, equal to that of a baby, then to abort it is to murder it.

So as horrible as giving birth to the rape baby would be for the mother, it does not outweigh the fetus' right to live.

But what right does the fetus have to life?

For arguments sake, it's quite an unnatural beginning to life. Sporned by an incestuous rape, you can't argue that it was planned or was a consequence of reckless sexual inhibitions.

Also is the right to life of the unborn fetus > right of the 11 year old to take back some control in her life?