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our teacher said that our cohort this year is much stronger than last
still, to get a 99.5 you'll need band 6s across all your subjects, realistically you're towards the bottom end of your cohort in bio, food tech and maths and it's unlikely you'll get a mid-90 overall mark for these three so unless you get 97+ externally in your subjects a 99 atar is virtually impossible 😔 how many b6s did you school get for each subject last year?
 

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I was being nice to, realistically this is like low 70s ngl, even with some decent rankings they are in the bottom percentile for everything so idk if they gonna reach 80 so this has to be a troll
bro same I said 80s to 90s but being ranked that low is realistically a band 4 for bio pdh math and food tech 😭😭 an 80 is untouchable unless they insanely clutch externals 😔😔
 

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@jimmysmith560 What's your take on this?
Unfortunately, these ranks at a school ranked 200+ are not consistent with an ATAR of 99.5+. An ATAR of 99.5+ is very high, and at schools ranked in the 200+ range, maximising your chances of such a high ATAR from an internal perspective would require optimal ranks, that is, placing at least among the top 5, preferably top 3 and ideally first within your cohort across each of your subjects. You were able to achieve this in Community and Family Studies, but you would need to mirror this standard of performance across your subjects for your overall performance to be consistent with a 99.5+ ATAR.

On a different note, I came across another thread of yours. If your main goal is to study law at university, but you fear that you may not achieve a sufficiently high ATAR, a potential approach that you can consider against those that others suggested (all of which are still valid) is to study law at another university, where the ATAR requirement is lower or where you can receive an offer through a non-ATAR pathway. For example, the ATAR requirement for ACU's Bachelor of Laws is 75. You can also receive an offer for WSU's Bachelor of Laws (whether as a single degree or double degree), which requires an LSR of 90, by having adjustment factors applied to your selection rank, or through its HSC True Reward Early Offer Program. This will allow you to subsequently transfer to a more established law school such as that of USyd and UNSW, while retaining the ability to study law if you fail to transfer.

I hope this helps! :D
 

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Unfortunately, these ranks at a school ranked 200+ are not consistent with an ATAR of 99.5+. An ATAR of 99.5+ is very high, and at schools ranked in the 200+ range, maximising your chances of such a high ATAR from an internal perspective would require optimal ranks, that is, placing at least among the top 5, preferably top 3 and ideally first within your cohort across each of your subjects. You were able to achieve this in Community and Family Studies, but you would need to mirror this standard of performance across your subjects for your overall performance to be consistent with a 99.5+ ATAR.

On a different note, I came across another thread of yours. If your main goal is to study law at university, but you fear that you may not achieve a sufficiently high ATAR, a potential approach that you can consider against those that others suggested (all of which are still valid) is to study law at another university, where the ATAR requirement is lower or where you can receive an offer through a non-ATAR pathway. For example, the ATAR requirement for ACU's Bachelor of Laws is 75. You can also receive an offer for WSU's Bachelor of Laws (whether as a single degree or double degree), which requires an LSR of 90, by having adjustment factors applied to your selection rank, or through its HSC True Reward Early Offer Program. This will allow you to subsequently transfer to a more established law school such as that of USyd and UNSW, while retaining the ability to study law if you fail to transfer.

I hope this helps! :D
Hey mate, im in a similar situation as this guy, but i know i can get 90s in all my subjects . is 90 still looking achivable (plus its out 3rd year and the kids this year look much smarter). i flopped my ranks coz i procastinated during trials (i still am procastinating)
 

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Hi guys, these are my ranks:
24/30 maths advanced
8/33 english advanced
1/24 community and family studies – highkey cooked for this one
19/33 pdhpe
17/22 food tech
33/34 biology - i failed trials :(

My school is ranked 200+

My goal is to get a 99.5 atar. Would this be possible? Im hoping that my cafs and English rank carry me… hopefully i get a cafs state rank so that will contribute a lot to my atar :awesome::awesome::awesome:
no, not even if you 100 all of your externals. it is impossible. you're looking at 75ish from your internals. 80s is doable if you work harder
 
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Hey mate, im in a similar situation as this guy, but i know i can get 90s in all my subjects . is 90 still looking achivable (plus its out 3rd year and the kids this year look much smarter). i flopped my ranks coz i procastinated during trials (i still am procastinating)
HSC exam marks of 90+ across your subjects would certainly increase your chances of achieving an ATAR of 90 significantly. If your cohort also performs favourably in the HSC exams, this will likely have positive consequences in terms of your Assessment Marks, which also helps improve your chances of achieving your ATAR goal. :)
 

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Hi guys, these are my ranks:
24/30 maths advanced
8/33 english advanced
1/24 community and family studies – highkey cooked for this one
19/33 pdhpe
17/22 food tech
33/34 biology - i failed trials :(

My school is ranked 200+

My goal is to get a 99.5 atar. Would this be possible? Im hoping that my cafs and English rank carry me… hopefully i get a cafs state rank so that will contribute a lot to my atar :awesome::awesome::awesome:
wait im fr curious what made you think you were gunning for a .5?
 

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Gentlemanlygerm said:
My school is ranked in the 130s:
SubjectAssessment RankBand 6s My trial mark + trial rank
English Advanced 22/700 (2023), 3 (2022), 3 (2021)78 + 30/70
Visual Arts2/102 (2023), 3 (2022), 0 (2021)86 + 2/10
Modern History 2/140 (2023), 0 (2022), 1 (2021)86 + 1/14
Society and culture 5/252 (2023), 2 (2022), 2 (2021)78 + 4/25 (messed up in trials but could get a 90 or high band 5)
Community and Family Studies 5/354 (2023), 0 (2022), 0 (2021) 90 + 2/35
I'm aiming for around a 75-80 ATAR to do a bachelor of arts.
From this information, you seem to be on track with an ATAR of up to 80.5. This means that the upper end of your ATAR goal is definitely within reach, subject to similar HSC exam performance.

Visual Arts is your best-performing subject, meaning that it is likely to make the best contribution to your ATAR out of your subject combination. To ensure that you achieve your ATAR goal, you should thoroughly prepare for your Visual Arts HSC, which will allow you to perform well and maintain a favourable level of overall performance.

The same can be suggested about your performance in Modern History as well as Community and Family Studies, although to a slightly lesser extent. This means that while both subjects are likely to make a contribution that is consistent with your ATAR goal, you may be able to improve your overall performance in both subjects through favourable HSC exam performance, thereby enhancing the contributions of these subjects to your ATAR.

Lastly, English Advanced as well as Society and Culture appear to be your lowest-performing subjects. This indicates that, compared to your other subjects, this is where there is the largest room for improvement. As such, you may wish to consider focusing more on your preparations for their HSC exam to ensure the best possible result and ultimately maximise your chances of reaching (and potentially exceeding) your desired ATAR.

I hope this helps! :D
 

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@jimmysmith560 Would love to call in the big guns if you don't mind 🙏
Based on this information, your current performance seems consistent with an ATAR of up to 78.

Modern History is your best-performing subject, especially given your optimal rank. Should you also achieve the highest HSC exam mark within your cohort for this subject, the moderation process will essentially work in your favour, meaning that your overall HSC mark would be made equal to your HSC exam mark. This gives you a great opportunity to maximise your result in this subject, and consequently maximise its contribution to your ATAR. Hopefully you did well!

Your performance is not unfavourable in English Advanced, Geography or Legal Studies, although there is clear room for improvement to your overall performance in each subject, which is possible through favourable HSC exam performance. Hopefully you did well in your English Advanced HSC exam, and best of luck with Legal Studies and Geography. You also still have plenty of time to continue preparing for the latter, and you should definitely make the most of it to ensure the best possible result.

On the other hand, Mathematics Standard is your lowest-performing subject and will likely prevent you from reaching a higher ATAR at this stage. Improvement is therefore crucial to reduce the chances of this happening, so hopefully you did well in this subject's HSC exam.

I hope this helps! :D
 

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