What units to choose for year 11? (2 Viewers)

shamimi95 · Jan 17, 2010

Hey guys, i'm was just wondering about the subjects i should take for year 11. A downside is that my school only allows us to have 12 units max so i stuck picking between a couple of subjects. My favourite subjects are Commerce and Maths and i hate Science (if it helps in anyway). These structures are the ones i want to take, but i can't choose.

Structure 1
English Adv.
Maths
Maths Ext. 1
Economics
Legal Studies
Accounting
Studies of Religion 1

Structure 2
English Adv
Maths
Economics
Business Studies
Legal Studies
Accounting

Just a couple of questions
(1) Which Structure should i pick?
(2) Why?
(3) Which structure gives me a bigger chance of achieving my Dream ATAR (lols i'm gonna try)?

Really appreciate it... and if I should change either of my structures let me know and why.

Thanks
:wave:

ilikebeeef · Jan 18, 2010

shamimi95 said:
Hey guys, i'm was just wondering about the subjects i should take for year 11. A downside is that my school only allows us to have 12 units max so i stuck picking between a couple of subjects. My favourite subjects are Commerce and Maths and i hate Science (if it helps in anyway). These structures are the ones i want to take, but i can't choose.

Structure 1
English Adv.
Maths
Maths Ext. 1
Economics
Legal Studies
Accounting
Studies of Religion 1

Structure 2
English Adv
Maths
Economics
Business Studies
Legal Studies
Accounting

Just a couple of questions
(1) Which Structure should i pick?
(2) Why?
(3) Which structure gives me a bigger chance of achieving my Dream ATAR (lols i'm gonna try)?

Really appreciate it... and if I should change either of my structures let me know and why.

Thanks
:wave:

12 units max? Damn.

Anyways,

1) Structure 1.
2) Because you like maths. Enjoyment + effort + good scaling = own.
3) Structure 1.

One thing: If you don't like/are not good at essays, don't do humanities unless you want to struggle or get annoyed at the subject. I liked and was good at commerce in my junior years but choosing Eco was a mistake for me. Luckily I dropped it.

shamimi95 · Jan 18, 2010

ilikebeeef said:
One thing: If you don't like/are not good at essays, don't do humanities unless you want to struggle. I liked and was good at commerce in my junior years and choosing eco was a mistake for me. Luckily I dropped it.

If I don't choose eco, should i take legal?? any other suggestions

trevhk · Jan 18, 2010

Shamimi check your private messages, I wrote a long response to your thread =D.

shamimi95 · Jan 18, 2010

trevhk said:
Shamimi check your private messages, I wrote a long response to your thread =D.

I'm writing a response to your question

ilikebeeef · Jan 18, 2010

shamimi95 said:
If I don't choose eco, should i take legal?? any other suggestions

First of all, are you good at and/or like doing essays?

shamimi95 · Jan 18, 2010

ilikebeeef said:
First of all, are you good at and/or like doing essays?

not really but i am willing to work on it

ilikebeeef · Jan 18, 2010

shamimi95 said:
not really but i am willing to work on it

You would need to work extremely hard then, because HSC legal/eco is a lot harder than commerce. At least that applied to me. I looked at a 15/15 response and I was like "oh shit". I felt so screwed for the HSC (and I only did eco) before I gained some security in picking up Physics even though it was the last term. I topped my Physics class for the Yearly.

Are you sure you don't like sciences at all? Because if you don't mind doing it, and put in effort, you'll be fine plus they scale better. I find that eco (legal should be more) is too subjective. Most of the assessments were in-class essays - not that great for maths-oriented people like me.

shamimi95 · Jan 18, 2010

ilikebeeef said:
You would need to work extremely hard then, because HSC legal/eco is a lot harder than commerce. At least that applied to me. I looked at a 15/15 response and I was like "oh shit". I felt so screwed for the HSC (and I only did eco) before I gained some security in picking up Physics even though it was the last term. I topped my Physics class for the Yearly.

Are you sure you don't like sciences at all? Because if you don't mind doing it, and put in effort, you'll be fine plus they scale better. I find that eco (legal should be more) is too subjective. Not that great for maths people like me. Most of the assessments are in-class essays.

How much easier is Physics if you're good at maths?

ilikebeeef · Jan 18, 2010

shamimi95 said:
How much easier is Physics if you're good at maths?

Most of the maths involves substitution (this starts in Year 11) and/or manipulating formulas (this starts in Year 12). The hardest maths I've encountered in Physics (so far, I've done 2 out of 4 topics, doing 3rd one now) is to find the gradient of a straight line graph. Being good at maths would kind of help, yes.

If you will be doing 4U maths in Year 12, you will find that the irony is that there is a harder degree of Physics in 4U than in "Physics" itself.

shamimi95 · Jan 18, 2010

ilikebeeef said:
Most of the maths involves substitution (this starts in Year 11) and/or manipulating formulas (this starts in Year 12). The hardest maths I've encountered in Physics (so far, I've done 2 out of 4 topics, doing 3rd one now) is to find the gradient of a straight line graph. Being good at maths would kind of help, yes.

If you will be doing 4U maths in Year 12, you will find that the irony is that there is a harder degree of Physics in 4U than in "Physics" itself.

I do plan on doing 4U Maths in Year 12 and from what you told me I am considering to do Physics.

ilikebeeef said:
You would need to work extremely hard then, because HSC legal/eco is a lot harder than commerce.

instead of legal and eco, should I do Physics and perhaps... Business Studies.

ilikebeeef · Jan 18, 2010

shamimi95 said:
I do plan on doing 4U Maths in Year 12 and from what you told me I am considering to do Physics.

instead of legal and eco, should I do Physics and perhaps... Business Studies.

I am not sure about Business Studies. But I know in terms of scaling, Eco > Legal > Business Studies, and that there's essays involved with all of them.

By the way you should ask other people's opinions too, maybe your parents, and read up textbooks and look at the syllabus, because I am only just one opinion. Some people can be good at both maths and social sciences (my maths-acing friend topped eco and she didn't even do commerce!).

ValentinesM · Jan 18, 2010

if you intend on taking 4u in Year 12, then structure 1 is the way to go since it includes 3u maths.
Maths and Physics

taking a few more units of maths is always complementary for physics but keep in mind that the sciences these days are more qualitative than quantitative. (check out the hsc papers and see for yourself HSC Exam Papers - Board of Studies NSW).
also for physics, if you want to do engineering courses at uni, most of them list physics as a prerequisite (although you can do a pretty rushed bridging course just before uni). so i guess doing physics opens up options.

Eco and Business Studies

do you want a more general understanding of the economy (ie pick eco) or a narrower and more specific one focused on businesses (ie pick Business studies)
seeing that you're aiming for a very high ATAR, eco would help you more with that. it is true that eco is harder than business studies, but if you're ambitious enough to aim for 99.95 ATAR, surely you'll be determined enough to work hard right? eco essays are different from english essays...
last comment: why don't you flip through the relevant textbooks and see if the content looks enjoyable to you?

Good luck!

kaz1 · Jan 18, 2010

shamimi95 said:
I do plan on doing 4U Maths in Year 12 and from what you told me I am considering to do Physics.

instead of legal and eco, should I do Physics and perhaps... Business Studies.

Do Physics/ Legal. Physics helps a little bit in 4unit.

lpodnano · Jan 18, 2010

shamimi95 said:
Hey guys, i'm was just wondering about the subjects i should take for year 11. A downside is that my school only allows us to have 12 units max so i stuck picking between a couple of subjects. My favourite subjects are Commerce and Maths and i hate Science (if it helps in anyway). These structures are the ones i want to take, but i can't choose.

Structure 1
English Adv.
Maths
Maths Ext. 1
Economics
Legal Studies
Accounting
Studies of Religion 1

Structure 2
English Adv
Maths
Economics
Business Studies
Legal Studies
Accounting

Just a couple of questions
(1) Which Structure should i pick?
(2) Why?
(3) Which structure gives me a bigger chance of achieving my Dream ATAR (lols i'm gonna try)?

Really appreciate it... and if I should change either of my structures let me know and why.

Thanks
:wave:

Woah 12 units max? Some schools have 12 units minimum but anyways...
If you're favourite subjects are math etc. then choose Ext 1 math in structure 1, that way if you are incapable of doing Math Ext 1, you can drop down. It's a lot easier and mind settling to try Math ext 1 and realise you can't do it and drop down than doing 2u and wanting to move up but your school won't let you and wondering about how you would've done in 3u.

shamimi95 · Jan 18, 2010

Thanks everyone that chipped in... I think that i'll do physics and eco.

Another thing that i wanted to talk about is english. Standard and advanced scale the same, so should i do standard as it won't give a huge workload and allows me to work harder on other subjects

kaz1 · Jan 18, 2010

shamimi95 said:
Thanks everyone that chipped in... I think that i'll do physics and eco.

Another thing that i wanted to talk about is english. Standard and advanced scale the same, so should i do standard as it won't give a huge workload and allows me to work harder on other subjects

It's harder to get a band 5/6 in standard though.

shamimi95 · Jan 18, 2010

How come?

Schoey93 · Jan 18, 2010

It's a harder course, that's why. (Not) Do English (Advanced), because it includes the study of Shakespeare.

firstneg · Jan 18, 2010

Schoey93 said:
It's a harder course, that's why. (Not) Do English (Advanced), because it includes the study of Shakespeare.

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