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can someone tell me what they think about the main point of my answer for module B speeches. It told us to make a 'judgement'. I kept linking similarities between suu kyi and atwood who protest for womens freedom, and then highlighted the difficulty in making personal judgement of the speeches effectiveness due to living in a post feminist world and having no experience of the days when women categorisation and stereotypes were the 'norm'
 

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Re: Module B - too specific?

I did Hamlet and talked about how the ending is integral in how Shakespeare re appropriates the tragic genre. Because it didn't specify thematic concerns I turned it into a genre study :D
 

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It was fucked.

To actually answer the question properly required SO much bullshitting, especially for Speeches and the poems...
No it didn't require bullshitting. It required intelligence instead of regurgitating an essay a tutor had made. I often despise BoS decisions, but I give credit where credit is due and that was an excellent question to eliminate those students who just memorise and regurgitate prepared responses but actually have no understanding of their text.
 

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Haha, Module B.... I bs'd about how Harwood "Overcomes the law of nature through the use of memories and imagination." Linked it in with A Valediction. I'll be surprised with an 8/20.... -_-
 

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looking back, it wasn't TOO bad. like super hard but not ridiculous. the bad part about them, im talking specifically about Hamlet is that BOS fails to remember that we are super nervous when we enter the exam room and also have like no time to write a suitable essay in the timeframe.
for me i panicked, let it till last. came back to it. Aprox 30 minutes to write it...manage to get something flowing and its pens down -.-
 

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Haha, Module B.... I bs'd about how Harwood "Overcomes the law of nature through the use of memories and imagination." Linked it in with A Valediction. I'll be surprised with an 8/20.... -_-
I didn't do any linking... I didn't see the need to ??


But I talked about

- Indentation: she refers to her memories to make sense of the ephemeral nature of life. I.e mortality and the transience of time
- Nostalgic tone (i think): again referring to the past but how this memory is portrayed as a joyful experience


that's it..................... omg. I should have wrote more because I could.
 

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Re: wtf are Module B man..........

no this is wrong

your thesis is shaped on the last stanza

but you are meant to analyse the TEXT TYPE as a whole

hence it said

"How does TEXT (something about) fitting in with all the others"

I did orwell...

so i said that
Why I Write sets out his propitious aims as a literary savant
and that these aims permeate his writing

your meant to look at it holistically
Not really sure what you're saying here or whether it is relevant for the Yeats question . We were taught that through the critical study of his poems, we find that his work is timeless and this is what I used as my thesis, suggesting that this notion is shaped by my personal reading of the final stanza of Among School Children, which vastly differs from the common reading of the poem as a reflection on youth and time. But I really don't know if this was ok ....
 

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Re: wtf are Module B man..........

I did Harwood, and I could not even comprehend what the question was asking me when i was reading it through in the exam. Question seems to make more sense for Hamlet, but hardly made sense at all for Harwood I thought.
Just bs the whole thing. Talked about her use of universal themes throughout all poems to make them relevant to anyone :/ had no idea
 

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No it didn't require bullshitting. It required intelligence instead of regurgitating an essay a tutor had made. I often despise BoS decisions, but I give credit where credit is due and that was an excellent question to eliminate those students who just memorise and regurgitate prepared responses but actually have no understanding of their text.
I 100% agree with this, but I still feel those doing Hamlet were better off as it is still ONE text, which i presume has a common idea running throughout, whereas those doing speeches/poems had a variety of texts to learn that address different issues.... Hopefully it is reflected in the aligning!
 

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In Hamlet, I was fucked, because I didn't know ANY quotes on the last scene, but I knew a lot about gender roles and patriachy, so I just said: "The final scenes on Hamlet had a limited impact on my understanding of the play as a whole, as I felt that the body of the play was the most essential part in the development of my judgement."

And then I just ranted about misogyny and Ophelia dying. Oh, and said the first time Gertrude disobeys Claudius in drinking for the poisoned cup, she Dies. PATRIACHY!

Hopefully they don't pick up the made up quotes, even if they were authentically Shakespearean...
Hopefully you don't get my teacher marking your paper because he basically knows nearly every quote, lol. He can randomly just recite a soliloquy for you. Plus, it's very risky to have made them up...
Good luck!
 

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haha spoke to my friend who did speeches as their critical study. awkward moment when their teacher tells them that they will only be focusing on 3 of them because that's all they needed. Imagine their shock when they saw the question was specific and had NO idea what the specified speech was about. bad teaching right there.
 

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looking back, it wasn't TOO bad. like super hard but not ridiculous. the bad part about them, im talking specifically about Hamlet is that BOS fails to remember that we are super nervous when we enter the exam room and also have like no time to write a suitable essay in the timeframe.
for me i panicked, let it till last. came back to it. Aprox 30 minutes to write it...manage to get something flowing and its pens down -.-
True, 40 minutes is not enough for most people to write a proper response rather than a superficial one. This is why the majority of students regurgitate essays. I know some of you are genius and probably going to bitch about me for whinging but not everyone is able think on the spot so quickly like that.
 

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Re: wtf are Module B man..........

I did Harwood, and I could not even comprehend what the question was asking me when i was reading it through in the exam. Question seems to make more sense for Hamlet, but hardly made sense at all for Harwood I thought.
Just bs the whole thing. Talked about her use of universal themes throughout all poems to make them relevant to anyone :/ had no idea
I think it was asking what themes are associated with the final stanza of the Violets and how it is represented within her poems as a whole.


Basically meaning, you have to analyse the themes conveyed in the final stanza of the Violets.
 

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haha spoke to my friend who did speeches as their critical study. awkward moment when their teacher tells them that they will only be focusing on 3 of them because that's all they needed. Imagine their shock when they saw the question was specific and had NO idea what the specified speech was about. bad teaching right there.
Yeah I guess... but then again, the HSC has never asked for a specific text so yeah .........
 

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I said that Gertrude knew that the cup was poisoned... Her disobedience and death was on purpose directly attempting to save her son and atone for her insensitive actions earlier in the play
 

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True, 40 minutes is not enough for most people to write a proper response rather than a superficial one. This is why the majority of students regurgitate essays. I know some of you are genius and probably going to bitch about me for whinging but not everyone is able think on the spot so quickly like that.
True... I was even struggling with a prepared one on my final essay.


Because I was soooooooo tired and my hand was sore like hell.
 

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True, 40 minutes is not enough for most people to write a proper response rather than a superficial one. This is why the majority of students regurgitate essays. I know some of you are genius and probably going to bitch about me for whinging but not everyone is able think on the spot so quickly like that.
Defiantly agree with this. I am fine at writing an essay from a question we a given as an assessment task, and usually get pretty good marks. But when it comes to writing one in 40 minutes, it takes me the full 40 minutes to actually write the whole thing let alone enough time to plan and ponder the question
 

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I didn't do any linking... I didn't see the need to ??


But I talked about

- Indentation: she refers to her memories to make sense of the ephemeral nature of life. I.e mortality and the transience of time
- Nostalgic tone (i think): again referring to the past but how this memory is portrayed as a joyful experience


that's it..................... omg. I should have wrote more because I could.
Yeah, it didn't say you had to link. I just did it because I didn't prepare for 'The Violets' (Even thought it was the one I chose it as one of my four I was going to use).... I also used the indentation to show her going back in time, blah, blah.... That she overcomes the limitations of time through her use of vivid imagery and sensory language.... This overcoming of the laws of nature is evident in 'A Valediction' through the power of imagination where the unity of flesh and spirit is portrayed blah, blah, blah.... Lmao, I'm gonna fail.... Hard.
 

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