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then again, you also tried to reinterpret noah's ark to better match more recent science even though hundreds of years ago it was taken to mean just a boat and nothing more, without explaining how its ok to reinterpret while also arguing that obviously the qur'an is so clear that its always been...

the difference between this and, say, child porn laws or anything like that is he's being killed for his belief, not for any act or possession of anything like that. purely for what he thinks

aside from that the two elements of Earth and space were never ripped apart in the past, then I'll also ask this....if the word used for heavens really means space, and heaven had a seperate word, then WHY is it translated as heavens? shouldn't it translate to space then? yeah, and people say...

you're ignoring how tolerant Islam is. The article is clearly misleading you. Somehow.

so....aren't these two effectivly the same? one thing being broken apart to form the heavens and the earth as two pieces?

ok, i should specify that my statement was based on terrorism from islamic terrorism...the sort of terrorism that is the greatest threat to us. india has different causes of terrorism, which seem to be predominantly those of independence. the terrorism the western world is facing, and what i'd...

nice products? last i checked (could be wrong though) the u.s. was operating in a trade deficit. outsourcing has become a major issue

i'll have to review the examples, but for those that have practical applications but needed a level of science to figure out (i.e. not simple observation) i'd want proof that islamic areas were using the practical applications and the only means of knowing what they did was by an interpretation...

and you think they'll get the money where, exactly? cuz, atm there ISN'T a solution as to how. the point was though, even if they do, there's diminishing returns here, as each dollar in spending more has more of the cost going to paying interest, and the money is often borrowed from outside...

yeah, but there's not a motivation there. india isn't stronly associated with the western world, and japan...japan would be tough just because they're so strict in their rules on foreigners. and again not a western power, really.

its not irrelevant. the point Not-That-Bright is making is that rather than these things having been treated as fact to begin with, but that the passages have been interpretted to agree with science after the fact. Spinning things to fit the current facts by claiming that there is some...

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Re: alpha christians great answer ok, to explain everything up to the formation of the earth (i'm astrophysics, not biology, so i'll leave that part to someone else) we started off with hydrogen gas (90+%), primarily, with some helium, deuterium, and a little lithium (very little)...

um, the second part of taht isn't true, because that implies that the universe's expansion is caused by elements of the universe moving through space, when the cause is the universe itself expanding....space itself expanding, so things are moving away because the space between one another...

yeah, but consider that a lot of gov't spending is often based on loans when its deficit spending. the more the u.s. already owes, the more it will cost in interest rates to pay off those loans. the issue is bush is spending more than the u.s. gov't is bringing in in taxes

yeah, its not that american gov't is spending money...that helps economy.... its taht they're in heavy deficit spending at this point since Bush is EXTREMELY liberal financially (in american sense of word) and thats a very unsafe policy from an economic perspective. anyway, the american...

if a bomb goes off somewhere, even if its not effective, it might well have been an act of terrorism, but would be catagorised as small because it wasn't effective or on that large a scale. just one example.

yeah, but no one says there should be exceptions for babies that have mothers that smoke, or drink, or suffer traits that they could pass along themselves. to be consistant, the claim should be the exception applying if any risk factor is present. heck, one of the big factors in down syndrome is...

care to explain the charges of supressing society and gaining power and control? that, or how you can claim that there is no threat of terrorism to australia when australian citizens have already been the targets of terrorism? also, its worth noting that the wording of the original...

home grown, or i'd think from indonesia would be possible. though i definitly doubt groups in the middle east will bother with australia...america and europe seem to be more popular targets in that regard. anyway, regarding iraq, i'd recommend to anyone the documentary "Voices of Iraq". They...