True enough, but my point is that basically the building blocks of the universe existed, everything that is in the universe now existed at t=0, it was just in a different form (matter & energy are interchangeable).webby234 said:Matter didn't exist, it was formed from energy. You could argue that energy did exist, but that depends on which theory you subscribe to. Some have a balance of positive and negative energy, meaning that no energy actually existed at t = 0.
Something can not have a cause without time, what exists now in the universe existed at time=0, perhaps in a different form but it existed. It's not tricky language and I don't think you've dealt with the problem at all.BradCube said:1. What ever begins to exist must have a cause (metaphysical law)
The entire concept of a 'cause' requires a before, "before" time is nonsense.3. Therefore, the universe must have a cause.
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