Gang rape video (2 Viewers)

[Serius]

what i meant was, this --> you have like 7 sick druken dudes, and one completly drunken girl, it was obviuos that the guys would attack her becuase she's drunk and weak, and they're like a group of 7 guys. Its not like the girl invited them to rape her, they were the idiots that took advantage of her in that state.

As for the camera, i know that its bad for them to use it. BUT, If they didnt take the video, the girl would have no clue on what happend to her, because she didnt know that she got raped only after she saw the video. When the guys dumped her infront of her house, she told her mum that she doesnt remember the previous nights events. So, the guys would now get punished for their crime, and its all thanks to the camera. Eventhough it is a shame that this video was spread around in this way...

i dont really think its that obvious, and i dont think their actions are excused. all you need is one of the people there to be a decent person and stop it. Me and all of my mates would never stand for it, even if i was the only one saying it was a bad idea, that alone would have diffused the situation. If one person says they will dob them in if they go through with it, well then the only way they could still rape her and get away with it is if they killed him.

Sure she made some bad decisions, but thats life. You cant say that her bad decisions are what led to this, its on the gang rapists and no one else. If a bad thing happened to everyone every time you made a bad choice, well no one would be saying you deserved it. Something also makes me think they drugged her, 4 drinks does not make you forget the night no matter how fast you slam them down.

I am curious as to how the blame is going to be laid down here. Obviously the dude who penetrated her is going to cop alot of shit, but the guy who just filmed her and didnt actually do anything directly might get alot lighter sentence. What about the other dudes who were at the party but maybe not involved, i.e in the other room minding their own business. What happens to them? slap on the wrist?

i would like to see blame laid where its due, the dude who commited a "sex act on her face"[lol] well i am not sure about the definition of a sex act, but if we are just talking a facial well wouldnt that just be assault? seen as he didnt penetrate at all. The guy who filmed it is maybe only peripheral to the actual rapist, and if there were the others holding her down, well they will probably cop it worse than the camerman. Should be an interesting case, almost as interesting as the kings of werribee sex video one.
Also it might lay down some precedents on refused classification porn. As it stands now iam pretty sure that teacher could be charged with child pornography laws if the police wanted too[ofcourse they wont though cause he helped them, just saying]

 

[Not-That-Bright]

i would like to see blame laid where its due, the dude who commited a "sex act on her face"[lol] well i am not sure about the definition of a sex act, but if we are just talking a facial well wouldnt that just be assault? seen as he didnt penetrate at all.

A sex act on her face would be considered indecent assault.

As it stands now iam pretty sure that teacher could be charged with child pornography laws if the police wanted too[ofcourse they wont though cause he helped them, just saying]

You'd have to see the case law on how the court has interpreted such provisions. Reading them yourself provides some insight, but you really need to go to cases also.

 

[MaNiElla]

i dont really think its that obvious, and i dont think their actions are excused. all you need is one of the people there to be a decent person and stop it.

First of all:

1- i did not say that they're actions were excused. These guys are bunch of sick-os. I clearly stated in my posts that these guys should be punished.

Sure she made some bad decisions, but thats life. You cant say that her bad decisions are what led to this, its on the gang rapists and no one else. If a bad thing happened to everyone every time you made a bad choice, well no one would be saying you deserved it. Something also makes me think they drugged her, 4 drinks does not make you forget the night no matter how fast you slam them down.

2ndly i didnt say that she made any bad descisions.I clearly stated that she didnt invite these guys to come rape her.

Please read more carefully next time, before accusing others of saying stuff that they didnt.

 

[mr_brightside]

For one thing I don't see you can have sex with someone who is passed out/struggling/doesn't want to. How fucked up do you have to be?

Just because you make a bad decision, it doesn't give someone else the right to do that. ever.

 

[withoutaface]

what i meant was, this --> you have like 7 sick druken dudes, and one completly drunken girl, it was obviuos that the guys would attack her becuase she's drunk and weak, and they're like a group of 7 guys.

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[*maria*]

i hope every single one of them rots in hell.

 

[vulgarfraction]

Oh well, the chick sounds slutty anyway.. Who else would go drink and play poker with 7 less-than-reputable guys late at night..

Less than reputable? Source?

And, yes, the guys were incredibly stupid.

 

[dagwoman]

Oh well, the chick sounds slutty anyway.. Who else would go drink and play poker with 7 less-than-reputable guys late at night..

So you're essentially saying that "slutty" girls deserve to be sexually abused? NO ONE deserves to be forced into doing something sexually they don't want. What you've implied is disgusting.

 

[Armenikum]

While i condemn and disagree with anything to do with rape, I pose a serious question here.

There will always be filthy and dirty people in the world, and no one can change that....but in amongst these kinds of stories, where are the victim's parents? Do they only care AFTER the rape has been committed?

Wasn't the skaf rape at like 2am in the morning in a park? I mean, what is a normal girl doing there at that time.....and same with this case, they are all so drunk and parying hard...don't their parents worry at all?


This is not to minimise the seriousness of these crimes or look for alternative reasons for blame, just a question which I think needs answering.

 

[Armenikum]

I think they are innocent until proven guilty but for muslim its guilty until proven innocent.

What the f**k?

In amongst your sad allegiance to an excellent nation enslaved by their government (which is AGAINST the constitution), i can only counter-act your stereotype with my own.....ignorant American(!)

Seriously though, wtf is up with that comment? It's sad to see how you have moved on as a nation to include Muslims in your hate filled campaign. First Blacks, then Muslims....Lord help us, you don't happen to be from, Westborough Baptist do you?

 

[Serius]

it was probably a bunch of muslims anyways. Those whities were framed i tells you.

 

[MaNiElla]

it was probably a bunch of muslims anyways. Those whities were framed i tells you.

nope, they were clearly a bunch of sick, retard whities. If muslims were involved, they'll say that straight away, without waiting for you to jump to conclusions.

 

[withoutaface]

nope, they were clearly a bunch of sick, retard whities. If muslims were involved, they'll say that straight away, without waiting for you to jump to conclusions.

Yeah, but it was to be expected because there were 7 guys in a room with 1 girl and lots of booze. Right?

 

[MaNiElla]

Yeah, but it was to be expected because there were 7 guys in a room with 1 girl and lots of booze. Right?

that doesnt mean that they just come and attack her, when she's alone and almost unconcious.

 

[x_babee-gurl_x]

it was probably a bunch of muslims anyways. Those whities were framed i tells you.

how can you just jump to the conclusion that it was a bunch of muslims? yeah sure there are alot of rapes by muslims (bilal skaff ect) but thats not to say that whites wouldnt rape ! whyy as soon as whites are blamed for something people reckon they are framed? isnt a white capable of commiting such an act? the difference is, if a bunch of muslims did it then it would be clearly stated in the news! im pretty sure this time it was a bunch of disgusting whites, who mustve been pretty confident that they wouldnt get caught as they made a video out of it and sent it around ! how thick can u get.

In the end however, it doesnt matter what race you are. Rape is rape and noone deserves it. Hopefully these guys get what they deserve!

 

[DeathB4Life]

^ sarcasm detector: batteries low

 

[Legham]

Less than reputable? Source?

Uhh.. they just raped a chick.. That's the source right in front of you

So you're essentially saying that "slutty" girls deserve to be sexually abused? NO ONE deserves to be forced into doing something sexually they don't want. What you've implied is disgusting

No, i was just saying i don't care cause i hold no respect for sluts, and never will. At least now she might learn to socialize with decent people compared to the scum shes obviously been hanging around.. I did not say, or think, that anyone deserves to be sexually abused.

 

[..07hscer..]

Its a screwed up world mate.

Tougher penalties for people who take advantage of such situations, parents to go out with their children , what could reduce such things recurring, police officers to visit schools - give talks and what to do in situations like that

i.e. in primary school the copa's came and gave a talk about walking home safely what to do if theres a stalker etc. cause some naked guy chased children down a road the week before

so whats the solution :s, guys to have pants that stay on untill they get home - are padlocks the real answer , or for guys to understand what the physcological effects can be on the girl for the rest of her life (she won't just get over it, it wasnt a bit of fun)

"The video footage of this attack can only be described as harrowing," said Detective Superintendent Mick Plotecki, the Liverpool Local Area commander.

"As a police officer I am appalled by a sexual attack of this nature and as a father I am horrified," he said.

 

[Tulipa]

While i condemn and disagree with anything to do with rape, I pose a serious question here.

There will always be filthy and dirty people in the world, and no one can change that....but in amongst these kinds of stories, where are the victim's parents? Do they only care AFTER the rape has been committed?

Wasn't the skaf rape at like 2am in the morning in a park? I mean, what is a normal girl doing there at that time.....and same with this case, they are all so drunk and parying hard...don't their parents worry at all?

She is a teenage girl. Lots of girls, responsible or not, sneak out at night to go do stuff and a lot of things from their parents. The parents probably freaked, not knowing about the rape and grounded her or something of the ilk.

That's the simple answer.

I feel so completely sorry for this poor girl. Just because she doesn't remember right now doesn't mean that will be forever. I imagine she's going to develop PTSD or at least have a number of issues in the future. Her flashbacks will probably be even worse due to the fact that she won't be able to tell what's real and what she's imagining.

Rape is so damn hard to prove and even though she is lucky enough to have the video she's still a teenage girl who the defense is going to love to put on trial as well. It's going to be hell for her.

 

[*hopeful*]

so, doesnt everybody just love the (lack of) media coverage on this ?