Israel–Gaza conflict (2 Viewers)

[moll.]

Amid the devastation, angry survivors want to know why - smh.com.au

Now tell me that Hamas does worse. They're both as morally corrupt as each other, yet they both continue to try and use the plight of the Palestinians as propaganda for their cause.

 

[prime-factor]

Accepted fact by some hyped up moon-worshippers and a bunch of hypocrites from the SA.

"END THE OCCUPATION OF GAZA" saw people saying that today. Don't they get the news?

Yeah, because anyone who isn't totally for Israel is a 'moon-worshipper(s)'. Go live there already. It's so great. Don't waste your time. Israel is waiting for you.

 

[rasengan90]

Surprise! Hamas broke the ceasefire and killed an Israeli!
BBC NEWS | Middle East | 'Israel soldier killed' near Gaza

 

[tempco]

Is Peace Out Of Reach? Video - CBSNews.com

^60 minutes report on Israeli settlements in the West Bank, prospects for peace and the two-state solution.

 

[tempco]

Surprise! Hamas broke the ceasefire and killed an Israeli!
BBC NEWS | Middle East | 'Israel soldier killed' near Gaza

Except Hamas hasn't claimed responsibility? Did you read the article?

 

[Ben Netanyahu]

Accepted fact by some hyped up moon-worshippers and a bunch of hypocrites from the SA.

"END THE OCCUPATION OF GAZA" saw people saying that today. Don't they get the news?

I know man. I mean, by any measure Gaza is completely independant of Israel now isn't it? Fuck you. If someone drops a stone in Gaza the IDF knows about it. The IDF controls their airspace, borders, food, aid, water, power and every damn thing else. Stop being a dickwad, think before you rag on the SA patriots.

 

[withoutaface]

I know man. I mean, by any measure Gaza is completely independant of Israel now isn't it? Fuck you. If someone drops a stone in Gaza the IDF knows about it. The IDF controls their airspace, borders, food, aid, water, power and every damn thing else. Stop being a dickwad, think before you rag on the SA patriots.

I'm going to tell them you said they were patriotic. You'll be excommunicated.

 

[Ben Netanyahu]

I'm going to tell them you said they were patriotic. You'll be excommunicated.

I'm sure my other REBELLIOUS and (quite frankly) AWESOME antics have already led to my expulsion from what is/was/forever will be the most glorious of leagues.

 

[rasengan90]

Except Hamas hasn't claimed responsibility? Did you read the article?

Yeah I did. Do you seriously think it wasn't Hamas or one of its affiliated Islamistgroups?

 

[Ben Netanyahu]

Some person set off a rocket
Could have been Hamas

*bombs aid convoy*

 

[Aryanbeauty]

Surprise! Hamas broke the ceasefire and killed an Israeli!
BBC NEWS | Middle East | 'Israel soldier killed' near Gaza

Hopefully Israel will retaliate and kill at least 10 terrorists in response

 

[justanotherposter]

Yes Hamas is enormously responsible, but Israel is more responsible. This is accepted fact. Go home, ponce.

Accepted fact by some hyped up moon-worshippers and a bunch of hypocrites from the SA.

"END THE OCCUPATION OF GAZA" saw people saying that today. Don't they get the news?

What? How can you claim that Israel doesn't have any responsibility in this?

I know man. I mean, by any measure Gaza is completely independant of Israel now isn't it? Fuck you. If someone drops a stone in Gaza the IDF knows about it. The IDF controls their airspace, borders, food, aid, water, power and every damn thing else. Stop being a dickwad, think before you rag on the SA patriots.

The blockades were put in place to stop rockets but the lack of concern from Israel about how the blockades on medicine, food and other necessities is affecting the civilians of Gaza is fucking disgusting. They even had the nerve to claim that "there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza". There are 1.5 million human beings in Gaza and they think that a blanket blockade is the best thing to do? And then they wonder how crazy fundies like Hamas get recruits? From what I can tell from the conditions of the proposed two state solution in 2000 @ Camp David Israel wants to make Palestine a subservant neighbor, not one with any real power as a country.

A Palestinian state would be established in most of the West Bank and all of the Gaza strip, with these conditions:

• 
  [*]The state would not have an army with heavy weapons,
  [*]The state would not make alliances with other countries without Israeli approval and would not allow introduction of foreign forces west of the River Jordan.
  [*]Israel would be allowed deploy troops in the Jordan Valley if Israel were to be threatened by invasion from the east.
  [*]Israeli aircraft could overfly Palestinian airspace.
  [*]Israeli would install early warning stations in the mountains overlooking the Jordan valley and other areas.
  [*]Palestinians would control border crossings with Jordan and Egypt along with Israeli security observation.
  [*]The Israelis would retain management over water sources in the West Bank while approving a limited quota to the Palestinians.
  [*]Israel would lease areas in the Jordan Valley or maintain temporary sovereignty over them for up to 25 years.

From: Camp David Proposals for Final Palestine-Israel Peace Settlement

The events in Gaza show (imo) that the peace and security that Israel wants isn't a "everyone's happy now", they want one where they've beaten everyone down so badly that they are too scared to fight.

 

[Zionist]

no. Israel is not responsible.

 

[Ben Netanyahu]

Wouldn't surprise me. This eh, "war", has shown that Israel isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

*blows up preschool*
Ok it was Hamas's fault for HIDING in the building next to the school! Mozel tov!

 

[Riet]

You play with fire you get burned, you elect a terrorist government who's constitution calls for the death of israel...

 

[КГБ]

Its not about electing terrorists government, its that the Palestinians have no1 else to elect.

 

[КГБ]

Oh hey Fatah.

Fatah are an inept run of the mill corrupt arab regime.

There corruption and uselessness is what led to the Palestinians voting in Hamas...

But the west being hypocrites did not give Palestine enough respect to accept there democratic decision (same as in Algeria) & instead of bring Hamas in from the cold did whatever it could to attack them & punish Palestinians.

The reason they support Hamas is not because Hamas has some grand plan to end occupation but because everyone else has not been able to provide them and when situation becomes chaotic, often people turn to those promise strong action, same is the case with Israel as well - a left or centrist politician stands no chance in Israel - only ones who come into power are ones with strong militant groups or army background.

 

[Ben Netanyahu]

Oh hey Fatah.

Fuck yeah man, because they've been such a positive force in this whole conflict and have done lots of Palestinian autonomy in Gaza.

Fuck you. No matter who is elected in Gaza, the Israelis will still treat them like dogs. Only Mahmoud Ahmadinejad can save them now.

 

[withoutaface]

Fatah are an inept run of the mill corrupt arab regime.

There corruption and uselessness is what led to the Palestinians voting in Hamas...

But the west being hypocrites did not give Palestine enough respect to accept there democratic decision (same as in Algeria) & instead of bring Hamas in from the cold did whatever it could to attack them & punish Palestinians.

The reason they support Hamas is not because Hamas has some grand plan to end occupation but because everyone else has not been able to provide them and when situation becomes chaotic, often people turn to those promise strong action, same is the case with Israel as well - a left or centrist politician stands no chance in Israel - only ones who come into power are ones with strong militant groups or army background.

There's a difference between acceptance and endorsement. International aid is not a right.

 

[justanotherposter]

no. Israel is not responsible.

Nice, it's good to know you couldn't refute any of my post so you resorted to this.