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could have been practising my civil engineering skills too, 1000% is a pretty big margin of error in most projects
 

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i disagree that rudd made things worse.
look at tony abbott's record - he takes away $1million from the public health system. thats even worse than doing nothing (which he is doing now).
kevin has many long-term projects that wont come into affect until this next federal term, and the ones he has done were with good intentions, saw some positive and negative results - overall i saw the positive outweight the negative.

if you cant provide well-constructed responses then give up.
firstly it was 1 billion and where did you think the money went?

IT WENT INTO PRIVATE HEALTH CARE REBATES SO PEOPLE COULD AFFORD BETTER HEALTH CARE AND TAKE PRESSURE OFF THE PUBLIC SYSTEM YOUR FUCKING IGNORANT JERKWARD
 

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firstly it was 1 billion and where did you think the money went?

It went into private health care rebates so people could afford better health care and take pressure off the public system your fucking ignorant jerkward
subsidies for the rich while the proletariat starves!
 

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yeah i reckon hes gonna lose...need a more conservative government, i think rudd tried to improve education and shit but fucked up
 

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Good news on the pricing of the broadband plan today...

Not happy Libs want to still throw it out
 

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So many people I think are now regretting that last election...

Anyway, the actions of both Rudd and Abbot have caused me to become disillusioned with both major parties for the time being =/ bit of a pity that we only have two of those though.
 

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This is what the legacy of the Fabians has ended up as?

Ugh.
You can try and throw the fabian tag at my feet like its something I disgusting and hideous but I will pick it up and wear it as a badge of honour. I am not ashamed of preferring a single mother working two jobs need not wait six months to have urgent surgery instead of some middle class tosspot getting his plasma tv and his private health insurance too.
 

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subsidies for the rich while the proletariat starves!

taking stress off of public system whilst stopping people from having to pay for two lots of healthcare (i.e. giving people their own taxes back) = good

You can try and throw the fabian tag at my feet like its something I disgusting and hideous but I will pick it up and wear it as a badge of honour. I am not ashamed of preferring a single mother working two jobs need not wait six months to have urgent surgery instead of some middle class tosspot getting his plasma tv and his private health insurance too.

You obviously have a very poor understanding of economics. You can't just throw money at a problem and expect things to work. No amount of money will make a good health care system unless you work WITH, not against, the free market.

this isn't even "we don't want the rich to have to part with their money", this is "government solutions never truly help the poor"
 

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taking stress off of public system whilst stopping people from having to pay for two lots of healthcare (i.e. giving people their own taxes back) = good




You obviously have a very poor understanding of economics. You can't just throw money at a problem and expect things to work. No amount of money will make a good health care system unless you work WITH, not against, the free market.

this isn't even "we don't want the rich to have to part with their money", this is "government solutions never truly help the poor"
The free market creates no jobs, all it creates is impoverishment, inequality and instability. Without government we would never have moved past farmers and carpenters.
 

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The free market creates no jobs, all it creates is impoverishment, inequality and instability. Without government we would never have moved past farmers and carpenters.
so basically you believe in totalitarian socialist state which leads to "impoverishment, inequality and instability". Don't like capitalism then go live in North Korea
 

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so basically you believe in totalitarian socialist state which leads to "impoverishment, inequality and instability". Don't like capitalism then go live in North Korea
I'm a big fan of capitalism, just not unfettered greed. Don't like government? Go lead a hermit life.
 

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