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>still religious

Religious indoctrination can push a normal person to become a murderer. Islam is the most dangerous at the moment.
 

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>still religious

Religious indoctrination can push a normal person to become a murderer. Islam is the most dangerous at the moment.
No, ideological fundamentalism is what can push a normal person into fighting for what they believe. True believers of anything are the most dangerous. Ever heard of the unabomber? Super smart math genius dude decides to start bombing universities because he believed technology is evil.
 

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I don't know if you've actually read the Koran or not, but the one thing I must certainly did NOT take away from it was "be a moderate".
 

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I don't know if you've actually read the Koran or not, but the one thing I must certainly did NOT take away from it was "be a moderate".
Same with the bible and the torah.


Skip to 7:22 minutes. We see muslim immigrants as a source of threat instead of looking at them as an at risk population. Look at how Malaysia deals with terrorism vs us. Treating all muslims as a suspect of terrorism just drives them into the arms of extremist groups and could turn a lot of young muslims into an accidental guerrilla.
 

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so when we let a bunch of filthy ragheads into our country, its our fault when they slaughter us on the streets

oh okay then

here's an idea, we don't let them into our countries in the first place so there's no risk of hurting their stupid little feelings
 

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so when we let a bunch of filthy ragheads into our country, its our fault when they slaughter us on the streets

oh okay then

here's an idea, we don't let them into our countries in the first place so there's no risk of hurting their stupid little feelings
dat racism
 

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yeah, complaining that muslims commit violence and rape is racist!!!!
 

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lmao Islam literally means submission

I mean half the Koran talks about devotion to god

and the other half is about killing those who break rules
 

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lmao Islam literally means submission

I mean half the Koran talks about devotion to god

and the other half is about killing those who break rules
Yeah because Muslims submit to Allah lol, how is that proof that it is a violent religion?

How is a Muslim being devoted to God a bad thing in any way?

As for the killing thing, examples please.
 

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please, there is thread after thread on these forums with a plethora of quotes from the quran which call for killing muslims who leave their faith, calls for holy war and essentially just encourages violence for perceived injustices. you then have some people taking the 'extremists are taking the texts out of context' bullshit defense which completely fails to realise - THERE IS NO CONTEXT. religion is just a series of chinese whispers and crudely written history hyped up over thousands of years with hyperbole and lack of proper documentation. no shit there are going to be at least a thousand different interpretations of these texts. the extremists are just as justified as saying that moderates are taking the texts out of context, and i'm sure they do.

as hitchens once said,
can you name me one good act a person of non-faith cannot do that a person of faith can?

you'll probably say none.

however, can you name me one bad act that a person of faith can perform that a person of non-faith cannot?

well, there are many examples of that ridden through history.
 

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so some dumb friend of mine shared this on Facebook and I think some of you dudes will get a kick out of it:

A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people..

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet. And who can forget Rwanda , which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.

Now Islamic prayers have been introduced into Toronto and other public schools in Ontario , and, yes, in Ottawa too while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?) The Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country until the fanatics move in.

In Australia , and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them. Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food items in your local supermarket. Food on aircraft have the halal emblem (see the attachment), just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding within the nation’s shores.

In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of “no-go” zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuse to acknowledge British law.

As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts -- the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
 

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